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Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 720	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:18:00 - [1] - Quote Jeremy Firewind wrote: Hey, I find it totally untolarable, that 3 1 mill Isk ships can easily gank my tanked 300mill hull. Sorry, but this makes me really sad. It put me out of business for good, that was my last money. Your cool event just cost CCP a subscriber. Yes tears are delightful, yadda, yadda, no stuff is to be had, because it all exploded. Ya know......when I started this toon in 2010 and I was noob noob beyond noob, I finally got my mining Osprey and a Badger. H'geddon was not that old and I had no clue what was up. So I'm mining away in my Osprey and THIS happened: 2010.04.22 15:19:00 Victim: Krixtal Icefluxor Corp: Federal Navy Academy Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Osprey System: Vittenyn Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 1960 Involved parties: Name: XXXXXX (laid the final blow) Security: 1.60 Corp: Suddenly Ninjas Alliance: Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service Faction: None Ship: Hurricane Weapon: 425mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 1960 Clueless I got my Badger to get the loot and my ore out of my anchored can, and this happened: 2010.04.22 15:30:00 Victim: Krixtal Icefluxor Corp: Federal Navy Academy Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Badger Mark II System: Vittenyn Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 3433 Involved parties: Name: XXXXXXX (laid the final blow) Security: 1.60 Corp: Suddenly Ninjas Alliance: Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service Faction: None Ship: Broadsword Weapon: 425mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 3433 I had next to no money and it took me a week at least to mission enough to get a mining Osprey again. I'm stiill here. You live and learn as in life. As you skill up, read, learn from Corp members, read Hulkageddon Kill Mails and all that later, you learn a LOT. And things do become either manageable or survivable. And it's really hard to not find something to do in EVE besides mining. If that's all you are doing, you are missing the entire POINT of the game entirely. So man up, and deal with your loss and play. I was so mad, I was determined to get back in my Osprey as soon as possible. And I had to mission to do it, again, not mine. I did not find out what H'geddon was for another few months. It is YOUR fault you lost your Hulk. And if you can afford that, another one is not far behind IF you work for it. Or do you want to be given things easy ? If so, this is not the game for you after all. So harden up or GTFO. We don't want to hear it. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 720	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:23:00 - [2] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: Drake Draconis wrote: EVE Online requires the following things : 3: IQ Greater than 50 (Ok maybe 100) To be fair, 100 is the normalized average, and judging by EVE players' math and language skills, I'd say only a fifth of all players meet this requirement. Less than that. And lurv the Corp name. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 722	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:45:00 - [3] - Quote Jeremy Firewind wrote: If everyone did just that, doing something else than mining, then you'd run out of ships to fly pretty fast. So do not tell me that I miss the point of the game entirely. You are indeed slow. Mining PLUS other things, not either exclusively. I don't know where you got the idea I said don't mine at all. you put words in my fingers and I don't like that at all. And if we run out of those ships (which will absolutely never happen), that would be their problem then wouldn't it? I don't even dare confront the rest of your post. All this for the first two sentences. We'd be here all night. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 722	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:51:00 - [4] - Quote Jeremy Firewind wrote: Can't you imagine, that pressuring your idea of fun and entertainment onto someone else does not mean fun and entertainment for them? We've ALL been there. This is NOTHING new. It's been this way for 9 YEARS going. It's something you have to think your way through. And after May 29...................do whatever. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 722	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:58:00 - [5] - Quote Dodixie MarketSlave wrote: Seriusly, I dont want to look harsh of something like that, but everybody knows and you knew before you sing up that EVE is a hardcore game. People plays eve because they can ** other people, PvP and there is no secure area. I mean High sec is highly situational... . Yup. h'geddon is even fun. I just don't like Goons. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck**
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 722	Posted - 2012.05.03 00:59:00 - [6] - Quote I thought my long aed post would help you see that there is hope, but I guess not. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck**
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 722	Posted - 2012.05.03 01:00:00 - [7] - Quote Jeremy Firewind wrote: These htfu yellers are the real carebears. Nothing hardcore here. This we know. You were smart to figure that out. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 723	Posted - 2012.05.03 01:28:00 - [8] - Quote Jacob Staffuer wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: it's YOUR fault you lost your Hulk Gonna have to disagree with you there mate. If you get robbed, it's not your fault. It's the robbers'. Cuz they did it. Just like when a woman gets raped it's not her fault. It's the rapist's. Cuz he did it. Even if you leave your door unlocked. Even if you passed out drunk at a party. It is still the criminal's fault. Cuz they did it. I know. This is the hard part to wrap one's mind around. There is a key difference. Hulkageddon is an advertised event that most, not all, players are made aware of. There is fair warning. They post rules. They list what ships will be killed. They post the length of time involved. They post what activities a player will be ganked doing. At that point, a player has many options. They can stay docked up for the month. They can join in. They can do other things besides mine. They can quit. Then the event happens, and consequences befall upon some. IF a player chooses to mine, they are then quite aware, or should be, that they are taking a risk. If unprepared, something bad may happen. I mined 3 Orcas of Veld last night in a mission site with the Orca and 2 Hulks. I'm not discussing my tank in these Forums. Ina .6 system, with a slightly better chance. Directional scanner properly tuned...and spammed it about every 30 seconds or whenever....looking for approaching probes...which is ALL you have to do. It's that simple. Was I in danger...to a degree yes. But I took the risk. I KNEW what could happen. In cases of **, terrorism, school bullying and all that, there is no warning. Hear that....NO WARNING. Was there fair warning before 9/11 ? No. That IS terrorism. If a woman is molested that is indeed horrific and should send the perp to hell, forget jail. BUT, if someone were told there is a gang going around doing that for a month, and they will be in a particular area, do you not think the woman (or man, it happens) would not choose to take another path, or whatever ? It would be silly not to plan otherwise. So, I took a risk to mine, knowing FULL WELL with fair warning what could happen. This is in no way wrong. In no way insidious. I protected myself the best I could and made myself as aware as possible. It's just another method of gameplay, and it's only temporary anyway. One cannot even compare this to or terrorism or any of those things as there is the fair warning and more. And a heck of a lot of money when you sell the minerals, for a change. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck**
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 723	Posted - 2012.05.03 01:31:00 - [9] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: I can't figure out what's making me laugh more. You or your posts TBH you are just posting cliched shposts we have all read a million times. Boring and uncreative. Thank you educational system for the current lack of simple word skills. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck**
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 725	Posted - 2012.05.03 02:52:00 - [10] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: If I want to grow rich and powerful, and be feared by the masses, why shouldn't I trample all over you if you're in my way, and can't defend yourself? Now, THAT's an excellent example of Terrorism as I outlined above. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck

Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 726	Posted - 2012.05.03 02:58:00 - [11] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: I never agree to bring real-life morality into MMO games when I sign up for them. But you bring all the RL Mentality into it. And Morality does not drop out of existence just because it's virtual or electronic. Ask that Norwegian Charmer on trial about that. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 726	Posted - 2012.05.03 03:02:00 - [12] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: I'm still a human, and human instincts aren't abstract like morals are. So you admit to acting on base animal instinct which involves your RL brain. God help us all. And morals are not abstract, Otherwise we would have ALL killed each other off a million years ago. I pity you. "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 728	Posted - 2012.05.03 03:49:00 - [13] - Quote Henry Haphorn wrote: You will not be missed. Good riddance. Wrong thread oops ? "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 786	Posted - 2012.05.06 14:03:00 - [14] - Quote Jacob Staffuer wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: I know. This is the hard part to wrap one's mind around. I know, this is a hard one to wrap your mind around because EVE is suffering from a strange form of Darwin-invoking "Stockholme Syndrome" where somehow "might makes right"... but the reality is: The gankers are at fault. They give fair warning. I've been mining away both Ore and Ice everyday of H'geddon so far. If one has not the ability to use an alt to summon CONCORD to your belt for protection (and an alarm WHEN THEY LEAVE THE BELT)...then I just don't know what to say. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 786	Posted - 2012.05.06 17:00:00 - [15] - Quote Scien Inkunen wrote: There must be a contest for stupid comments, yes? Yes. It's been ongoing for nine years. And thanks for contributing this one. It's called the EVE-O Forums. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 802	Posted - 2012.05.07 15:07:00 - [16] - Quote RealaiX wrote: its all about pvp.. u guys havent recognized that this MMO is a *** Sandbox and there wouldnt be pvp without industrials ! ...if i lost a ship it is my own fault and i did something wrong. I also think Hulkageddon is a good event to get rid of "some" botting asses and it really boosts some prices which makes me just richer than before ! BUT plz stop saying that EVE is just about PVP! thats so stupid.. I've been trying to drive this point home for years. think it's just a thread derailer at this point, and should just be ignored IMHO. Doesn't even deserve snark honestly. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 802	Posted - 2012.05.07 15:09:00 - [17] - Quote July Oumis wrote: Just saw like 10 Macks mining ICE in Osmon, also some Hulks in Airaken, which is a 0.5 system. Lontrek/ Citadel, just some jumps from Jita... Hulkawhat? Most ppl don't even care. Blow em up I say. How do you know they are not actually ready to flee at a moments notice? Did you check exactly what they have in the Drone Bays too ? Was CONCORD on site? Tell us more since you wanna be 007 or something. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 803	Posted - 2012.05.07 17:07:00 - [18] - Quote Snot Shot wrote: I have never mined before but while Hulkegeddon is going on why donGÇÖt the miners mine in tanked up battle ships with tanking command ship bonuses going and a logistics chain running? Might not get the most mins but wont the CFC turds need to bring a lot more peeps to the party to take you down? . A BS will pop to 10 Tornadoes just like a Hulk. They are just not an 'official' Target. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 807	Posted - 2012.05.08 11:43:00 - [19] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: You really think we're going to drop 800-odd million ISK to gank an almost fully-insured T1 battleship, that doesn't even have expensive modules fit? How blind and stupid you are. In EVE, ANYTHING will get ganked by ANYTHING. If you do not know that, or claim to not know that, you are indeed Troll. Maybe if you stopped being a Forum Jezebel for 2 seconds and actually played the game.......... "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 807	Posted - 2012.05.08 11:54:00 - [20] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: These people are so up their own ass that not only are they still flying Hulks during Hulkageddon, they're refusing to even tank their ships because it might hurt ~their yield~. SOME of us actually know what we are doing. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul

Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 816	Posted - 2012.05.09 11:53:00 - [21] - Quote Eryn Velasquez wrote: Would be the same ridiculous tears if a ganker looses 1 skill when committing a crime in highsec. Risc and reward, you know. Sounds fair. And at RANDOM. Say, Battleships V goes bye-bye "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 816	Posted - 2012.05.09 12:34:00 - [22] - Quote Syndic Thrass wrote: RealaiX wrote: [quote=Snow Axe][quote=RealaiX]Stupid bullshit Dear miners bitching in this thread, I recently realized that Syndic has almots 7.0 standings with Caldari Navy! This means I have access to many a locator agent. You're first meight. I'll see you soon. Oh my freakin' god. really ? lolololololololololololololol "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 816	Posted - 2012.05.09 12:35:00 - [23] - Quote Ispia Jaydrath wrote: ITT carebears sperge about how awesome it would be if CCP would just base game design on their sad little revenge fantasies. The worst part is that it never even crosses their mind to take revenge themselves. Tells you what type of people they are, I suppose. You sound like your brain just formed a few hours ago tbh. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 816	Posted - 2012.05.09 12:36:00 - [24] - Quote Jint Hikaru wrote: At least in Eve Concord always punish the ganker. Seriously, people need to HTFU in game rather than crying on the forums. The louder crying actually comes from those who want to ban or evade Concord. Just google any of the threads about the Boomerang Exploit and enjoy the massive tear-flowage. (And give Herr Wilkus a big wet sloppy kiss from me while you are there reading). "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 816	Posted - 2012.05.09 12:46:00 - [25] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: It's a mechanic particular to that exact ship and has no over-arching bearing on the entire game ecosphere. What you are suggesting....................(snip). Irrelevant. In total. The skill losses towards the T3 Cruiser are not punative towards a high sec violation. One can lose the skill just for losing a ship to an NPC rat. Next. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 816	Posted - 2012.05.09 12:48:00 - [26] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: The loss of the gankers ship is absolute, the loss of the victims is not Just ask the 3 week old noob mining in an Osprey about that. "Every other expansion has catered to the pew-pew need for more things to blow up; to more public cries of, "see how valuable I am!" - anon-á "You have to understand that the human ego will do whatever it takes to get attention because it needs to know that it exists." -- RuPaul

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